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John Ratcliffe
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Posted - 2013.07.16 09:46:00 -
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hellcane wrote:You are fitting it wrong.
Fit it right and you have a ship that's on par with mach.
Yes. With less ammo use as well.
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John Ratcliffe
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Posted - 2013.07.23 11:50:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:What first hand experience? I see no solid evidence of anything from you except you say that the vargur is better.
I accept this is anecdotal, but a very good friend and Cop mate of mine owns a Mach and a Vargur and I was telling him about this thread on Vent last night. he told me that he never uses the Mach any more because the Vargur does everything the Mach does and uses half the ammo. He uses an 800mm AC fit and it spanks the NPCs silly in Lvl 4s.
We all mission together and I've seen how fast the Vargur chews through mobs - it's a very good ship for Lvl 4 PVE.
Make of that what you will.
As regards your question Tsukino, can you fly a Mach & a Vargur yourself? Had you considered doing some comparisons between the ships in mission completion times etc? just wondering what data you'd want to see to quantify 'best', even though that's really subjective.
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John Ratcliffe
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Posted - 2013.07.23 14:43:00 -
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Tsukino Stareine wrote:I just find having to fly within 50km to do any significant damage to anything but angels highly limiting, when you can use barrage for angels its a bit better but even still every mission that spawns anything in separate blob becomes a pain. Whenever i fly a turret ship i always have the fact that my domi has been shooting for x seconds already while i have yet to start in the back of my mind
I think that's possibly your issue - you're not using the right ship for the right mission. For those missions where the NPCs are <50KM, he'll use either a Vindi or the Vargur. For missions where they are further away (Worlds Collide etc.) he'll use a Rail Rokh.
Personally, I just use my RNI and don't stress it, but hey-ho!
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